Fall Etiquette: The Cargo Pant General Style 80 Comments

Joshua Kissi: If you’re like me and can’t seem to fit your daily belongings into standard five-pocket pants, consider switching to cargo pants. Now an illustrious piece in both men’s and womenswear, cargo pants proved their durability and functionality in the battlefields before they were deemed fashionable on the runways. Though not recommended for the gentleman in his office cubicle, the pant is a comfortable alternative to trousers and jeans for those who cater to outdoor work.

From M-65 jackets to cargo pants, it’s important to understand the significant role military-inspired pieces have in today’s style and fashion scene. We constantly take these pieces with a distinct function and integrate it with other pieces to create a casual aspect, which always provides inspiration and playfulness.

Cargo pants arrived on the style scene during the 1990’s, stemming from an urban trend that everyone from myself to your favorite rap artist got in on. Instead of going with the usual aesthetic of pairing cargo pants with hiking or work boots, gentlemen around the world, particularly in Italy, have shown sartorial spurts of inspiration by coupling cargo pants with hard-bottom shoes and sport coats.

Cargo pants are pants with exterior pockets added to the legs and rear. They are used to carry large amounts of items on one’s person without requiring additional baggage.

Fit Description: The best thing about this post is probably how affordable cargo pants are thanks to your local US Army/Navy store. I, like yourself wanted to avoid the $200+ price tags for cargo pants. But the process doesn’t come to a halt there. A trip to your local tailor is in order to alter the pants, depending on your preference of fit. Cargo pants are made to fit loosely to aid in comfortable movement. Through the warmer months, loafers were my safe haven for every summer etiquette post. As temperatures dropped, though, wingtips became a good substitute.

UK shoe makers Grenson was the perfect choice to side with, their expertise in quality craftsmanship  has provided the brand notoriety worldwide.

Tailoring Tip: Shortening the garment isn’t much of a difficult task with cargo pants. Understand that to completely slim down the whole leg, width may be compromised to an extent because of the side cargo pockets.

After searching for a portfolio online, I finally came across this vintage portfolio on eBay for $5.99. It’s the perfect size to hold items such as folders or a laptop.

All pictures taken by our good friend Rog Walker

History : “Cargo pants were first worn in 1938 by British military personnel. These cargo pants were part of their Battle Dress Uniforms (BDUs). The original cargo pants style featured one pocket on the side thigh and one on the front hip. Cargo pants were first worn in the United States on military uniforms in the 1940s. The side cargo pockets initially were only on paratroopers’ uniforms, providing them with easy access to ammunition and radios.” – Ben Grant , University of Oxford 92

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  • Ammi Nasi

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    What a brilliant idea Josh!! Ive often taken BDU’s for granted at face value, but now I know just what to do with them.
    You do realize that I am now going to steal this idea? lol

    Great post, man.

  • Tremayne

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    …that’s what I am talking about, love that fact that you shared with us the history of the cargo pant. amazing how urban culture takes things and make them style.

  • Lowhency

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :


  • Itoro Udoko

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    Awesome post. It’s great to see historical items like cargo being given sartorial uses. I will say though, I believe I detected a typo in the first line. You said:
    “If you’re like me and can’t seem to fit your daily belongings standard five-pocket pants…”

    I think you forgot “into” between belongings and standard.

    Quality post regardless, of course.

  • Art

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    Wow Josh. First thing I looked at were the pics here and I really liked the kit. Then I thought to myself, well looks like Josh became a baller now and can afford Cucinelli. I was blown away when I found out that the pants were only $25. They look very impressive. Question: Did you just tell the tailor to taper the pants from the knee on down? Absolutely fantastic.

  • Joshua Kissi

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    @Itoro Udoko: Thanks Itoro over looked that typo – just corrected. And you’re completely right I don’t see cargos highlighted too much as far as sartorial use, but always for functional ofcourse.

    No sir you are !

    I agree it’s interesting how any group of people take things and make it their own , ie big oversized cargos was the move for the 90s with some goretex boots or such, columbia/nautica jackets lol going down memory lane.

    @Ammi Nasi: That’s why I posted it lol , for you guys to do what works for you guys, I saw it being done and really liked the look of things.Instead of a blazer opted to do put a henley with a waistcoat lol probably very unorthodox to some.

  • Lowhency

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    It’s so funny I brought myself a pair over the weekend & wore them with my Hunter rainboots boots; but you make me want to experiment the next time I put them on!

    It’s crazy how history is being repeated today esp. with the young teenage males. Many purchase the Cargo pant over size and sag them with a pair of Polo boots *sighs* & you my friend switch it up and create a casual look!

  • Tom

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    Best thing to wake up to, a new post on something I didn’t know I wanted! I’m thinking these would look good with your Sebago collab boots eh?! You guys are an incredible inspiration. Stay strong.

  • Stephen

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    But do you really want heavy pockets down the length of the leg weighing on your hips/waist?

    -Stephen http://www.stitchesfabricandsoul.com

  • mat ahoy

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    i love them, fit colour/fit/history/look. the pockets add someone extra and playful to a regular pant. glad they’re not flared like i remember from the 90s

  • Valentine

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    Thanks for the very interesting post!
    May I add: La Classe!

    -diary of a fashion stylist-

  • Basilia

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    Although I am a girl, your outfits amaze me every time! Boys should dress more like all the boys featured on your blog! Love your style
    xoxo from Australia,


  • Henri Junior

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    It’s the first I comment one of your post & I would like to say that this one is remarkable for both writing and styling!
    Rog Walker did a great job on the visual as usual. Keep up the good work!!

  • Neal Wellington

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    Good post, I have my cargo’s in the closet but I cant wear mine until I take them to the tailor with the 20 other pieces I have to get tailored. You might of motivated me to get a jump on that

  • Eric

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    Josh, don’t your ankles ever get cold?! JK. The outfit looks good though. Love the shoes. Tailors will probably start getting a lot more business because of your sit. You should try smiling in future posts though. Blue Steel is very 2001.

  • Vonmiwi

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    It’s good to know that some people realize that style doesn’t cost a fortune. I sold most of my BDU pants once I got out of the Army,but I kept a few pairs for myself because they look good with just about anything. Great article!

  • cococollage

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    Green and Orange work so well together.
    I think an all leather vintage briefcase would suit your style better, but that’s a great find for that price!

  • phil

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    I have a pair of “Swiss army” pants. Not really cargo pants, but I like the ideal of getting something cheap and getting it tailored to fit you. I agree with Eric from 10/13, try smiling… but keep giving ideals to the masses. Fashion is trendy, style is eternal.

  • Theo

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    Who makes that portfolio? I can’t read the metal tag on the side. Thanks!

  • Ninjagaiden78

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    I like the bracelet, but the cargo pants???


  • Brighton Peer

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    I have feared the return of the cargo pant ever since those GAP commercials in the 90′s, lets face it Jkissi could wear a brown bag and it’d look stylish, but I really hope these don’t come back!

  • Seb

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    so innovative, just incredible

  • Corey

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    Dig those Grensons. Looking sharp, man.

  • emily

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    As always great stuff , you make cargos look fantastic compared to the guys I see wearing them everyday!

  • Brian

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :

    Very inspirational. Makes me a bit angry I decided to convert one of my standard issues into shorts over the summer. Time to hit the Army Surplus store and then my tailor. You sir are a true taste maker!

  • khordkutta

        posted on October 13 , 2010 :


  • Chukwuma

        posted on October 14 , 2010 :

    I appreciate the interplay between the orange of that scarf and the green of the pants.

  • Joshua Kissi

        posted on October 14 , 2010 :

    @Art: Hey Art, good eye there my brother I was discussing Cucinelli with my co-worker great fitting cargo pants but of course with a price tag that would hurt your wallet. That’s the thing they’re avail for cheap with great quality after tailoring , perfect.

    Correct, I told him to just alter from the knee down and it came out fine.
    @Lowhency: Thanks Lowhency , that sounds like a great look , but like yourself residing in NYC we know how cargo pants are typically worn , and nothing is wrong with that if they’re comfortable with it. We like to play with different aesthetics and looks bring some fun into it.

    @Tom: They surely would I would probably go with these olive cargos , or even khaki to downplay the strong red in the boot. No, thanks for checking out the site

    @Stephen: I guess that all depends on how heavy the items are , typically shouldn’t be too much of a hassle to weight down the pants. phone,keys,random gum pack it varies from person to person of course.

    @mat ahoy: I agree myself not just regular baggy , but overly baggy as I remember lol. People have been wearing cargos here stateside especially here in NY but the versions made from the Gap/Oldnavy/Hollister etc which provides a diff material from the BDU cotton twill /polyester etc def more casual as well.

  • Joshua Kissi

        posted on October 14 , 2010 :

    @Valentine: Thanks.

    @Basilia: Thanks for the support all the way from Australia , it would be nice to visit Melbourne

    @Henri Junior:
    Thanks Rog did a amazing job as always much props to him , and taking the time to comment on the post , we try to improve the quality of post every time we post which can be difficult lol

    @Neal Wellington:
    You’re not alone in this , I have a pile of clothing that needs to get tailored , but due to just being busy running around it becomes difficult to tailor everything you buy, thrift, and have had before and had new ideas of tailoring lol just a lot of tailoring in general! lol

    @Eric: Aha , not until late oct to february pants will still be rolled up just dress socks or camp socks all depends.The no smile thing originated from style forums lol , if we met in person no worries I won’t keep this face 24/7 lol . Thanks.

  • Courtney Chenard

        posted on October 14 , 2010 :

    ::good lesson good job::

  • GxC

        posted on October 14 , 2010 :


    i was looking for cargos and i didn’t think to check around the military store while i was in there. thanks for the heads up. $25 is the cheapest I’ve heard of.


  • Paul

        posted on October 14 , 2010 :

    Seriously this look is grilled cheese worthy. Does Street Etiquette eat GCs?

  • joshua

        posted on October 14 , 2010 :

    WOW!!! that port folio was such a steal!!! was it new??

  • Leroy

        posted on October 14 , 2010 :

    Grenson’s selection in wingtip shoes is superb, but the price tag is a bit high. My pockets range more in the Clarks and Bass level. I’m also diggin that gap tweed vest which goes perfect with the belt. The vintage portfolio is the one item that caught my eye, and to know that you paid $6 bucks is definitely a steal. You need to teach me your method on how to keysearch items on ebay. lol. Great Post!!..

  • Willber Willberforce

        posted on October 14 , 2010 :

    “Bang on trend”

  • Kristopher

        posted on October 14 , 2010 :

    Being in the military its going to take some getting used to wearing cargo pants for style and fashion oriented purposes rather than purely functional ones. That being said you definately pull off the look. And i”m a big fan of the wingtips. I just picked up a pair of florsheim burgandy ones that I spotted at the second hand shop. As usualy great post! Keep up the good work!

    -Love and Respect from Canada

  • Z

        posted on October 14 , 2010 :

    I appreciate all y’all do and share with the world. I frequent streetetiquette.com and always find such interesting and informative entries. Big up!

  • Khemet

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    I am an advent wearer of cargo pants, they are very versatile and rocks well with Clark’s Desert boots. Good post and keep doing what chya do.

    Livin in Japan, KMT

  • Dee O.

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    Great post! I feel like I have a lot to learn from this blog, even as a female lol. This look is absolutely amazing, I love the small accents of color you added through your accessories. I really enjoy reading your posts and I appreciate the fact that you take the time to research the origins of these trends. Great work Josh!

    That GOOD GOOD Blog

  • Caazzoo

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    I want the bag! Awesome outfit!

  • JK

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    @Vonmiwi: Thanks I’m proud to see all of our US Army men coming to the plate here defending BDU’s not only function but also wearability. It may be kind of weird at first because you are so used to wearing them for a different reason , but I assure you if you take a different step with it like a blazer could make a whole world of a difference.

    They really do work well together , maybe so if I could have won it on ebay for the same price lol!

    @phil: Swiss army pants sound nice, but yes that’s what we want to project to our readers, you don’t necessarily need a million dollars to possess style other than having the mind which is more valuable than currency.

    @Theo: The portfolio is from ‘phillipe’ maybe you can find another one.Interesting fact is I was bidding with one of my friends who read this site on it lol.
    @Ninjagaiden78: Thanks and yup cargo pants lol.

  • JK

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    @Brighton Peer: Lol I think everyone has a fond memory of cargo pants polluted the retail racks from every big brand around, although a different fabric/material cargo pant made in a more casual fit. The particular ones I’m wearing here is strictly military but stressed in a casual aesthetic paired with henley/waistcoat etc and shoes. Lol I would love to see them make a come back though.

    @Seb: Thank you kind sir.

    @Corey: Thanks Corey , they fit great also a all around great shoe.

    @emily: Thanks a lot, I doubt guys on the streets are as meticulous to detail and fit as we’re here lol but I bet if they were it would look better. Now that I’m wearing my cargos more frequently I’m starting to spot them more on the street worn by women/men.

    @Brian: First off Brian, I want to say how great you’re site is I have been frequenting it for the past few months and it never crossed my mind that the writer of it would read SE. Small world indeed.

    That’s such a bummer the weather is turning cooler I encourage to hit up that Army/Navy surplus store would like to see how you style it.


  • JK

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    @khordkutta: No problem just spreading the knowledge ! , take advantage lol

    @Charles: Lol one of the most funniest comments I have come across this year – lol thanks Charles I know what you’re talking about.

    @Chukwuma: I think it’s great color play between the two colors, probably one of the more underrated color schemes to go with.

    @Courtney Chenard: Thanks Courtney

    @GxC: Just glad I could help out , its truly a staple in your wardrobe if executed the way you want.

  • Sheinzy

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    Tailored Cargos don’t work for me, plus if you were to actually then use the cargo pockets it would complete misshape the tailored look you have gone for.

  • JK

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    @Leroy: Totally understandable when it comes to price points because we all know some brands charge a bit more than necessary even when based on quality, I feel there is only so much you could charge until you raise eyebrows lol. bass/florshiem are great substitutes for shoes even johnston&murphy and others. The method on ebay is pretty simple just keep searching and searching using different keywords , colors work lol I can’t say too much now though lol!

    @Willber Willberforce: A ‘trend’ I’ll wear for life lol.

    @Kristopher: Similar to what said above it’s great to see all the military guys come out of the wood work to give some more insight on cargos and how they feel about it, nice florshiems always seem to be at secondhand shops just shows the longevity of the brand – thanks for the support from Canada

    @Z: Thank you sir , its def not under or over looked .

    @Khemet: Nice, you know that’s right on the ball with clark dbs a nice look. Hope Japan is treating you right my brother .

  • JK

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    @Dee O.: Thank you Dee.O just realized who you were I have been following your tumblr for months now, great great style you have. There’s no reason why females couldn’t take a little bit from our blog and use what works for their style , I go to female blogs for that same inspiration sometimes color schemes , proportions its all interchangeable in some aspect. BTW great interview with our good friend Kadeem Johnson –

    Guys check out the interview also
    @Caazzoo: Thanks , i think at this point everyone does lol.

    @Sheinzy: I think that totally relies on how much of the cargo pockets you are utilizing. Personally I would like to actually make use of the pockets if I have items to put in there , although the pockets are great to show w/ nothing in there I prefer the opposite. All personal preference it seems – in the pictures above I do have items in my pocket and it feels fine to me.

  • FACE

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    Thank goodness for a post like this. There is such a stigma on cargo pants and how they’re over casual or sloppy even. This view is a way to show people the versatility of these pants and how when properly fitted and matched, they can look damn good.

  • Poetri

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    The color palette is great and very unconventional. I like the hardbottom shoes and the shirt and vest. I would have never thought to pair it with the cargo pants but it’s a creative look nonetheless.

  • Luke

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    “Though not recommended for the gentleman in his office cubicle, the pant is a comfortable alternative to trousers and jeans for those who cater to outdoor work.” True for most men, but you prove in your lovely photos that it’s possible to dress up cargo pants. I think they’d be appropriate if you work in the right kind of office and know how to style them right. Might give it an interesting, trendy edge paired with a skinny tie.

  • The Prestige

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    I don’t like cargo pants. For the most part you cannot find them with a good fit or a colour that doesn’t ruin an outfit. The dull army green takes away from the nice belt and nice vest. The colours don’t work and neither do the ideas. It also prevents you from wearing anything that makes the outfit pop but you did do a go job with that with the orange fabric around your wrist. Very nice pictures though, especially the old ones, those must of been very difficult to find. Good research too

  • JLouie

        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    Wow, i generally don’t like cargo pants because, as many have mentioned, they look too casual and unflattering. However, in this post you have managed to make cargo pants very classy. Good Job.


        posted on October 15 , 2010 :

    Appreciate the humble reply. Japan is kool, they some other ish here. Its crazy, I was checking for some new desert boots on the web and stumbled upon the Street Etiquette blog, saw ya gave a brief background on them including how kats in Jamaica been rockin them. Desert boots are basically the only joints I rock, they fit comfortable when walking and cycling around:
    I been wanting to tell you kats I always check ya blog and happy to see other heads on another lev. I respect the hustle.


  • JK

        posted on October 16 , 2010 :

    @FACE: It’s a true stigma that plagues people it’s understandable though for the majority , but i’ve seen it pulled off very well enough to give it a try during the spring but of course that’s not the case for most people it varies. ( Face commenting means history lol )

    @Poetri: Thanks – kind of like taking two pieces from different aesthetics and making it work, its really something.

    @Luke: You’re totally right maybe a bit more dressed up than I am pictured here, maybe going with a blazer/tie/shirt combo I could see where it could raise eyebrows but if done correctly could work for sure.

    @The Prestige: I would consider the fit of the cargos a straight fit for the most part depending on how you size yourself when trying them on. The colors vary across the board from khaki,olive,gray,black I don’t see how these solid based colors would potentially take away from a outfit let alone ‘ruin’ one. The color palette works pretty well in my opinion olive/ chestnut brown/cream/orange, it’s always a mindful when researching these items & pics – btw from observing your first line it all makes sense lol.

  • JK

        posted on October 16 , 2010 :

    @JLouie: Thanks – I think everyone has a bitter hatred for cargos lol deep down somewhere lol – embrace it!

  • Tremayne

        posted on October 16 , 2010 :

    @Joshua Kissi:

    I remember my first pair of Gortex $200, that’s the most I ever paid for shoes. I haven’t paid that much since. Speaking of clothing price. Will you guys ever do post on how to be stylish yet economical?

  • bleach

        posted on October 17 , 2010 :

    how much you weigh? and how tall?

  • Jill Heron

        posted on October 17 , 2010 :

    Great pictures here Joshua and very informative post

    Have you ever thought of modeling professionally? I have good relations with agencies in new york if it ever crossed your mind

  • Alex Rachon

        posted on October 18 , 2010 :

    Grenson have a worldwide “notoriety”?
    If Grenson is a quality brand then I find it confusing why you would describe them with such a negative word. It just seems like a superfluous adjective that has no place in the context that you are using it in.
    Thought I’d just mention that.

  • JK

        posted on October 18 , 2010 :

    @KHEMET: I think that is one of the most viewed post we have done to date, as all of us are jealous of the red desert boots trav has in that article lol – Oh yes West Indian fellas have been wearing them for years before – enjoy in JPN

    @Tremayne: With every post we do I think there’s a tip to take in order to come up with your own economical guide to be stylish , but also spend as least as possible.

    @bleach: 165 lbs , and 6’1
    @Jill Heron: Thank you Jill, I have been asked to attend castings and such but never followed through lol

    @Alex Rachon: Worldwide notoriety amongst shoe enthusiast I would like to say , not as in they’re stocked in every nook and cranny that provides hard bottom footwear. From Japan , to Sweden back stateside you will find individuals wearing Grenson shoes my friend.

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  • Justin FitzPatrick

        posted on October 18 , 2010 :

    Even though you guys make the cargo pant look good I just don’t think that i could ever go back to that fashion. The flair that the pocket tends to make would just completely throw off a sleek, slender look.

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        posted on October 18 , 2010 :

    super look, j’adore ton style.
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  • Miguel

        posted on October 19 , 2010 :

    I’m a huge fan of your blog, and love your style…
    I have a little question. I’ve been meaning to buy a pair of cargo pants and get them slimed down, (I even found a pair at H&M for 35€) but I’m afraid that I’m gonna ruin them!!!
    When you got them slimmed down did your taylor take out fabric from the inside or the outside of the leg?
    Thanx… and keep up the good work, I’ll keep following you….


        posted on October 20 , 2010 :

    As always, you look absolutely stunning. Great picks on accessories and love the cargo and the bag.


  • JK

        posted on October 20 , 2010 :

    @Justin FitzPatrick: Understood, there’s certain looks that I think would work with it , I think its very dependent on the person though for example it will not be perfect for everyone when they put them on etc

    @agnes: Thank you
    @Miguel: Oh wow didn’t know H&M was carrying them they may be slim already, but if you want to further slim them down the tailor went from the outside of the leg to avoid further complications etc.

    @Rolly (THESOUTHSIDER): Thanks Rolly! Keep up the good work on your site.

  • Citizette.com

        posted on October 20 , 2010 :

    Those pants are all kinds of amazing.

  • Clyde Shuman

        posted on October 20 , 2010 :

    I enjoy this site, even though it’s sometimes a chore to wade through the grammar and syntax. That said, why would you recommend putting anything in the side pockets of a pair of cargo pants? Unless you want to look like a soldier, you’re just ruining the line of the trouser.

  • JK

        posted on October 20 , 2010 :

    Thanks Clyde, the positive with the negative as we move to improve such.

    To me it’s personal preference I’m in no way stating to full your pockets until there’s no more space, but yes I believe there is some utilitarian function when it comes to the Cargo pant. I think some people can work off of those proportions which are ruining the trouser line for you , it’s all personal preference in the style world, no set in stone rules. I like to ideally think as cliche as it sounds “To each his own” when it comes down to it.

    Thanks for the comment

  • Unyime Akpanudosen

        posted on October 21 , 2010 :

    Oh great Josh! I’ve yet to take to cargo pants, but as always your informative post gives me a new look at them. You styled them well! Great colors as always my friend.


  • Deval

        posted on October 22 , 2010 :

    I like your ring and your other necklaces, where did youget them from?

  • Nate

        posted on October 22 , 2010 :

    Outstanding piece. I truely feel your passion through your well chosen words that are further deepened by the historical matter of facts. As always great visuals. Keep up the good work gentlemen.

  • tommy

        posted on October 22 , 2010 :

    freaky, but i like it…

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  • Brian G

        posted on October 24 , 2010 :

    Are you kidding, I am obsessed with your blog. Best men’s style on the web and best of all, it’s the most creative way to go about affording it too! Such an honor to know you have been following my blog. It really has been getting around quite a bit.


  • potenzmittel

        posted on October 25 , 2010 :

    There is obviously a lot to know about this. I think you made some good points in Features also.
    Keep working ,great job!

  • The Ca$h

        posted on November 1 , 2010 :

    Great Post.. Kiss
    Officially in love with Cargo Pants
    Already accessorized this look… in everyway possible.. lol

  • ismosanga

        posted on November 2 , 2010 :

    Does one of you guys work at the jcrew in Soho, NYC? saw a striking resemblance!

  • JK

        posted on November 3 , 2010 :

    Yes I actually do lol.

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        posted on December 27 , 2010 :

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