Item Etiquette: The Waistcoat General Style 82 Comments

JKISSI: Who knew one type of garment contained so many discrepancies when it came to how we chose to identify it? Stateside, the item is most commonly identified as a “vest,” though I think that vague moniker applies to any sleeveless piece. Across the pond, the term “waistcoat” is usually attached to the item. That best fits the description and function of the garment, which is why this post is called “The Waistcoat” and not “The Vest.”

I’m not here to discuss semantics of the piece (Waistcoat vs. Vest), but instead, to talk about how it can be incorporated into your own style across the map. Because the first waistcoats were originally meant to provide an extra layer of warmth, it shouldn’t be a surprise that today’s version of the waistcoat makes a great layering piece.

Similar to other garments recent times (like sweaters and pullovers), we snatch the waistcoat away from its previous notions of formality and give it a more casual context through the addition of jeans, T-shirts, and even sneakers.

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Joshua – Vintage Brooks Brothers tie  - GAP Tweed Waistcoat – Tanner Goods Belt – Self Edge Flat Head Jeans – Sebago shoes

Kenny – Vintage Ralph Lauren Glasses & Tie  - J.Crew Waistcoat & Shirt – Uniqlo blackwatch plaid trousers – Bass saddle shoes – Vintage bag

Fit Details: I got the tweed waistcoat from GAP while I was working there several years ago. Interestingly enough, I recently stumbled upon it while welcoming the spring season by cleaning out my closet. I found the vintage Brooks Brothers tie for 99 cents at a thrift shop. It’s similar to a tie many companies would charge $50 or more for. At two-and-a-half inches wide, I think it’s the perfect width for a tie. It’s not necessarily too skinny, but not incredibly wide, either. The Flat Head jeans have been receiving a ton of wear even though the temperature is rising.

It intrigues me when I see older gentleman wearing waistcoats with a pocket watch dipped in one pocket. A perfect example of a person who does this is professor Cornell West. I recommend you watch this video on his thoughts on “What is Style” brought to us by Prepidemic Magazine.

Style allows you to project to a sense of what is outside of you and connect those things , and other that are outside of you and bond you in such a way that people feel you” – Cornel West

Item Etiquette : The Waistcoat from Street Etiquette on Vimeo.

Photography/Video: We set out to achieve the great city ambience of New York City and there was no other place better do so than Midtown. Midtown—known for its glorious skyscrapers and recognizable architecture—fit perfectly into the mood we were looking for. This mood was further accentuated by this happening in the midst of clusters of dress-up business individuals, all maneuvering in an automaton-like way. We figured that since were born to such a great city, why not express that with style?

People :  Joekenneth, no stranger to this blog and the potent mouthpiece behind the ‘Sewn From the Soul’ video, made an appearance with myself in this post. A keen eye can see the meticulous detail that went into his outfit –  I enjoy the color transition from his plaid tie  <-> stripe shirt  <-> shoes <-> red bag.

King Charles II introduced the waistcoat as a part of correct dress during the Restoration of the British monarchy. Samuel Pepys, the diarist, wrote in 7th October 1666 that “the King hath yesterday in council declared his resolution of setting a fashion for clothes which he will never alter. It will be a vest, I know not well how”. This royal proclamation is the first mention of a waistcoat. Pepys records ‘vest’ as the original term. The reason for the term ‘waistcoat’ was to denote the termination at the waist, whereas, at the time, men’s formal coats went well below the waist as frock or morning coats.” – Giles, Bellamonte – Designer, UK


 


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  • Mister Anderson

        posted on May 25 , 2010 :

    Nice fits gentlemen. Love that you add videos to the posts now but it says it’s private..


  • Trav

        posted on May 25 , 2010 :

    One of the best posts to date.. Great job. Adam came through once again.. best video yet!..Kenny’s fit is o so serious


  • Prêt à Porter P

        posted on May 25 , 2010 :

    Excellent Excellent. The videos have been such a great thing to incorporate on here, such a joy to watch.


  • Keon Cam

        posted on May 25 , 2010 :

    Great post guys, really made me want to pull out my waistcoat that I got a few years ago. Keep it coming, the movement has hit Toronto!


  • Chris

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    This piece is dope. I am a big fan of the waistcoat. Alot of people do not know there fit when it comes to this piece of clothing. I always see gentleman with them on that are just to big and loose, that’s a bad look. By the way I really can appreciate you guys site, it has helped me elevate my style a little more.


  • Theo Martins

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    One of my fave posts to date, love both fit’s especially Kissi’s as I feel theoutfit as a whole is something I would typically wear. Congrats brother.


  • astro

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    I’ve been trying to figure out the waistcoat look, glad you put a post up that gives me ideas on how they are supposed to look.


  • JKISSI

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    @Mister Anderson: Thanks – just made it public sorry about that to other people also.

    @Prêt à Porter P: Thanks a lot ! – when we’re completed with them we can’t wait to see the final product even if its just 60 seconds to watch – more like a whole movie meshed in one to me of that day lol.

    @Keon Cam: Thanks Keon – We will be taking a trip up north ( Toronto & Montreal ) so we definitely appreciate the support – bring out that waist coat!

    @Chris:Mutual respect Chris we’re just here to influence and inspire people at the most general level – you’re right on that just have to make sure its the right size for you and fits proportions

    @Theo Martins: Wow thanks theo – I definitely think me and you share the same influences except I can’t put lyrics down on paper so good like you .

    @astro: Thanks – it’s not really a direction or guide on how it’s “supposed” to look from one dimension but is one of many ways you could pull off the piece. dress up or down still works all depends..


  • amit

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    I work in that building!

    Big things (for you dudes, not me).


  • Coldsun

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    The homie Kenny is killing it…
    Dudes tie and tie bar are crazy, the pocket square it helps the look alot…
    A couple of dudes at my job might throw on a waistcoat every once in a while, and i never really like it… They look too formal or like they are trying to hard… I really like what you gents are doing, with the sleeves rolled up and everything fitting just right.. the mix of formal and casual… Its hot.. I think i’m going to try this…
    Josh, Trav, as always dope stuff… Keep it up bros…


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  • JKISSI

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    @amit: Nice ! – oh dont say that – if you work in that building I’m pretty sure you’re doing some right as always thanks!

    @Coldsun: Kenny definitely came to rescue here I could say my outfit is a more minimal one than anything but he really turns it up sartorially with mixing patterns like plaid , madras and stripes to the color contrast with green/navy. Yeah the waist coat has been all over in recent years even in a more casual skater look with sneakers/fitted to dressed up – I think to hit the middle of that area where it isn’t too formal or too casual is a example of what we did here without really trying to aim for it but organically a reflection of our style . Get into it!


  • Kenny

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    The video and pics came out great! When i got the call from Josh i was instantly excited. The waistcoast has been a staple in Men’s fashion for hundreds of years and i’ve seen it’s popularity grow. My look was an ode to England. I wanted to go for the “dapper gentlemen” look with a splash of color. Thanks to everyone for their compliments and comments.


  • Siri

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    These videos are so amazing! I always want to comment on your posts, but then you guys go ahead and kill it so hard that I’m pretty much left speechless!


  • owen

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Good job guys with the outfits, the preppy look is one of my best look ever, I wish more BROTHERS dressed like you guys!! This is Real Elegance Period!!!!!!!!


  • TheStyleGent

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Joshua, Kenny & Travis thanks for doing this video, the waistcoat is such a powerful article of clothing and provides a wide variety of options. This is the epitome of a killer piece that should be in every gentlemen’s arsenal. You guys stripped it down to the basic and sheer whimsy of just expressing personal style through this powerful & sometimes overlooked garment.


  • EC

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Great post again. Thanks for the Cornel West link. “Style vs Substance” is always a good debate. Today, having personal style/swag gets too much attention and nowadays people try too hard. What I see often lacks substance and is primarily a way of self expression/or to stand out of the crowd and nothing more. I agree, genuine style you are born with and is rare.


  • SwanDiamondRose

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    yey! love waistcoats and love your outfits. nice!


  • Michael

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Quick question- how do you prefer to tie your tie? Is that a four-in-hand I see?


  • LOLA

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Hey, I like this look! I don’t know if it’s just me but it looks different from your other looks! Not that it’s a bad thing because it’s always good to change it up haha…
    Love the vid!!!

    -LOLA


  • Cameron

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    …classic, your glowing Josh and the fellas, vid and music are kickin…vintage rocks


  • JKISSI

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    @Kenny: You sure did a fantastic ode to England with that combination again thanks .

    @Siri: Oh wow – that type of effect humbles me we try to keep improving with every post is all and inspire.

    @owen: Thanks a lot Owen – I’m sure people who have a ounce of curiosity will begin to follow suit and develop their own style around their influences.

    @TheStyleGent: I think you hit it right on the head sometimes definitely overlooked but when put on you can change the whole perception of your outfit whether you have a shirt with a tie underneath or just a plain shirt speaks volume to your overal aesthetic.

    @EC: No problem but thank the guys over at Prepidemic magazine for getting in contact with Dr.Cornel West I just saw it this morning and looped the brief segment into my post knowing he is a 3 piece suit kind of guy and does it well. Substance certainly comes into play when it comes to style – sure it’s great to look well put together but a certain attitude has to accompany that – a lot of people tend to forget or ignore that.


  • Cole Simmons- London, England

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Brilliant article– most days ; particularly spring time I can not leave my house without one-images are brilliant.

    Cole Simmons, 21, London


  • Nems

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    You fuckin’ guys are amazin’! Keep the fresh threads/outfits coming!!
    Been checking the site for a while now and just felt like I had to leave a comment!

    Peace & Connect,
    Nems
    Universal Article


  • Michael

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Oh and I forgot to mention in my previous comment- awesome post! Love the looks and the blog as a whole.


  • j.o.

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    love the fits and you guys taste. but why do you cuff ALL of your pants? a cuff here and there is nice but everytime?


  • Itoro Udoko

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    I heard Josh talking about once in a video by Tone the difference between style and fashion. I had never before thought about it in that light and it’s been cool to begin to notice more the distinction since he mentioned it. I’m digging the post and the current regularity on this blog. Much ups!


  • JKISSI

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    @SwanDiamondRose: Thanks ! btw like what you are doing with SWANclothing keep it up.

    @Michael: Hey Michael its suppose to be a windsor knot I would say a ‘four in hand’ knot would be a little more smaller and discreet than what I have tied above. I should try other methods but I pretty much go with this method time and time again.

    @LOLA: Thanks Lola – I mean you should have variety in the way you dress but revolving around the same aesthetic maybe you have never seen me dress a tad bit formal (ie tie/ white shirt ) but I like to do this from time to time when I feel like it.

    @Cameron: Thanks – lol glowing I guess so it was a great day with some friends just having good old fun taking pictures and walking around the city. Janelle Monae makes the video!

    @Cole Simmons- London, England: Seeing that your from LDN it should be regular protocol for you or maybe I’m being a tad bit naive lol , but its a much needed look . thank you

    @Nems: Thanks man – it seems like a lot of people who wouldn’t normally comment are doing so – which is a great thing every post has different commentors so to expand on that is always a positive. Certainly will keep the post coming – assured.

    @j.o.: The majority of the time we have always done some sort of slight cuff on here with our pictures/fits – now its more of a pin roll than a cuff of the jeans but its definitely a personal preference for anyone.


  • LOLA

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Yeah you’re right! That’s what it was, it just couldn’t come to me haha


  • Julia

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Great post as always. Love the hair Joshua. :)
    One question, where is your ring from? I’ve spent a good five minutes staring at it, scroll down, scroll back up, stare, sigh. I may be slightly obsessed…


  • love

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    love what ya kids do but really the vest is no place for a pocket square or hankie


  • Adam

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    @Julia I know this doesn’t help much, but he’s what he mentioned in the DB post: “the ring was from a African jewelry shop I stumbled across I only spent about 5 mins in there because I had to run but I’m definitely going back to get some more accessories lol.”


  • Xavier

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Hey. I have long realized the versatility and untapped potential of the waistcoat. Now that I have decided to expand my wardrobe with more waistcoats, I cannot seem to find many. Sure, I could spend a few hundred to a few thousand dollars for a three-piece suit, but that is expensive. Does anyone know some good places to get waistcoats. I’d greatly appreciate it if you could reply to this post.


  • Barrett

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Great post, which seems to be the norm. I just discovered SE, thanks to the GQ article, by way of another fashion blog. I’ve already torn through the archives and I’m hungry for more. Again, great job, and keep it up—it’s inspirational.


  • QB

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Holy crap, that video was the best one yet!


  • shey

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Awesome stuff, Josh. Loving both fits. Props to Kenny too.

    I’m curious: Which thrift shop did you find that tie at?


  • anthony

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    where can i find some beaded bracelets like those online or in a store. Thanks!


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  • JB

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Great looks. This is a great post as NYC transitions to the warmer weather. I’m looking forward to your summer posts… may I suggest one that highlights that gold f’ing ring and other men’s jewelry.


  • Michael

        posted on May 26 , 2010 :

    Wore one today. Tons of compliments.


  • Bevin Elias

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    I’m beyond proud can’t wait until the movement can’t be put aside. from us young guys to the future


  • illtek

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    Love it fellas. I just graduated from college and I’m really thinking about incorporating a tie on my everyday attire. Thanks for the inspiration.


  • JKISSI

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    @Itoro Udoko: Yup – it’s one of those things that proves itself time and time again if you pay attention. Of course we’re all students of fashion it alternates every 6 months or so – but what ever we like we add it to our style which is permanent

    @LOLA: Lol – ok I like to do it from time to time

    @Julia: Thank you Julia – lol no worries I had similar symptoms when I first laid eyes on the ring lol I got it from a West African jewelry shop I stumbled across in the West Village -they have all sorts of cool accessories especially for the ladies – I can email you the address

    @love Thank you – I see it more as a style preference and reference if anyone wanted to see how that looked – imo Kenny is doing it totally flawless.

    @Adam: Adam always assisting thanks man. I will let her know where I got it specifically.


  • Julia

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    @ Adam: Thank you! Didn’t realize it was the same ring…

    @ Joshua: Agh! The good things are always out of reach, aren’t they? :) Shanghai to West Village is a little too far than I’m willing to travel for (gorgeous) jewelry.


  • mat ahoy

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    realy enjoy all the videos of late guys, i look forward to the next one. those plaid trousers with the socks and combo is just brilliant


  • Reggie

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    lol I got nothing, keep doing what your doing. ps. Trav has inspired me to step my vtg polo game up.


  • Hank Rosenberg

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    Dapper stuff gentleman as always


  • Prêt à Porter P

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    Off topic, but I’m pretty sure I saw one of you guys featured in this book: http://blog.alwaysnevernyc.com/post/625891321/in-stock-taking-pictures-of-people-who-take-pictures-of


  • Keith

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    Great post. I quite enjoy checking out your blog. You do a fantastic job with it. I hope you’ve been having a wonderful week.


  • Style Odyssey

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    EXCELLENT. And I must say, those blackwatch plaid pants are sublime.
    Basically, you guys rock. Very refreshing to see real style instead of trendy, generic fads. Thank you.


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  • Neef @truebeliever12

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    awesome fit fellows. i love the saddle shoes worn by kenneth. this is truly the essence of style in this post


  • Simon

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    Hey, love the blog! Found you a few weeks ago and already check for new posts daily. It’s so great to see your personal takes on items of clothing, taken on you, real people, with good photography – it really made you stand out from other style blogs (in a good way!)

    Can I ask – what is the piece of music you used in this most recent video?


  • wale

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    you write so well, thats one of the things that really separates this site from others, I might sound redundant but it’s just reverberating the truth, cornell west said it best, you can’t have style without substance, style is a voice and the mimicked style are just echos. you fellas have style.


  • JKISSI

        posted on May 27 , 2010 :

    @Xavier: Based on your inquiry I searched around a couple of reasonable online stores to try to get something to show you – it must be ‘out of season’ right now since the weather is warming up but I have to say I did see madras fabric waistcoats in Ralph Lauren that was going for $198.00 or so – I know you are seeking something more reasonable well here is the solution to that lol

    @Barrett: Thanks Barrett – we try to keep a consistency with the topic and presentation of post recently its been great with the addition of video giving you guys a different visual and how exactly we live and carry on in these ‘clothes’ trust me there is a lot more to come !

    @QB: I think so too – well we have more ideas we want to incorporate into the video so we’ll see lol

    @shey: Thanks Shey – its a thrift shop off Canal and Church

    @anthony: Depends on the beads a mix of vintage and topman.com – the leather strand can be bought here http://www.selfedge.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=82&products_id=440


  • JKISSI

        posted on May 28 , 2010 :

    @JB: Much thanks JB – trust me we have the ‘accessories are a necessity’ post reoccurring again and rings will definitely be incorporated into the post –

    @Bevin Elias: Yes Bevin – I’m just grateful to be in a circle of people doing what they love with such a strong passion excited for the future.

    @illtek: First off congratulations sir. Good idea – the most important aspect is to be comfortable in it and if it is necessary for your occupation you certainly have to get accustomed to it lol – In a more casual way you can do a million and one things in order to make it work – have fun mess with patterns and colors!

    @Julia: Sorry about that lol –

    @mat ahoy: Thank you mat!


  • JKISSI

        posted on May 28 , 2010 :

    @Reggie: The great thing about vintage polo shirts is a lot of their colors and patterns are pretty unique compared to the polo market today – I say get into it , but letting you know ahead of time some will need drastic tailoring.

    @Hank Rosenberg: Thank you Hank.

    @Prêt à Porter P: Yup , that was me featured in Sidney Lo’s portait book project dissecting the means of “What Did you Wear Today” of individuals on internet – Kind of surreal to see myself in the book it feature some great looks/people.

    @Keith: Respect sir. Week has been great can’t complain at all – btw nice blog

    @Style Odyssey: Black watch plaid trousers Kenny is sporting are definitely a eye – catcher I wanted to purchase the same thing but my size sold out – Thank you your blog is wonderful as well I recommend the ladies to check it out.


  • Ashley

        posted on May 28 , 2010 :

    Great post! Waistcoats always take casual or business outfits to the next level. The mix of patterns is hot! I’ve been trying to find ways to pull that off without looking crazy… you guys pull it off effortlessly. (An aside: I love patterned socks on guys!) Your blog is such an inspiration! Thank you guys!


  • JKISSI

        posted on May 28 , 2010 :

    @Simon: Hey Simon the instrumental is off of Janelle Monae’s newest album ‘The ArchAndroid’ I recommend you listen to the whole album and buy it if you’re into this track – refreshing to the ears. We always want to express the notion that we’re normal guys funny thing : Some people think we model for the site and someone else writes the content lol

    @wale: Hey Wale – thanks my brother I would be lying if I said we didn’t start to indulge ourselves in reading/writing more learning from talented writers. In the comments section its pretty much a little more casual more like a chat I would say lol – get all the feeling out on here

    @Ashley: Interesting – women sporting waistcoats is something I have seen but I would think its a little more difficult to execute. Maybe some could have a t-shirt and put a waist coat on top with jeans/boots with a nice hat – well don’t take my advice on female clothing ! lol

    The inspiration is mutual just by the fact you guys come on here and comment on our post which you really don’t have to – inspires me.


  • ArmonR

        posted on May 28 , 2010 :

    Incredibly inspiring post…or rather the people behind it.
    Jkissi, I have had the same ring you are wearing for years and have no idea if it means anything.
    Any ideas?


  • TFG

        posted on May 28 , 2010 :

    I have been a lover of men’s fashion as long as I can remember! Following this blog, I have never seen style so dissected. It amazes me how every look/piece that is discussed always comes with a story. I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels this way, but what you guys have done is revolutionized individuality and creativity. Soon it will become obsolete to wear clothing for their name or their price. Every post leaves my jaw dropped! The pictures; Amazing The wording; Even more The incorporation of video; great touch! I am a vest kinda girl, I own them in all colors, and different types of materials from jean to silk to leather (vintage of course). I look ti the vests in my wardrobe to add the finishing touch. Great post on the waistcoat!

    Keep up the Good/Great work ;-)


  • james

        posted on May 28 , 2010 :

    Gotta jump on the bandwagon and say that it’s one of the best to date as well, top 3 I’ll say but you gotta love how Joe Kenneth always goes beyond the call of duty! Needless to say, this was a fantastic post and we can only imagine where the videos are gonna take us from here…..


  • Stephen

        posted on May 28 , 2010 :

    Such dandys. I love it so much. You’ve impeccable style thats hard to match. Yowza. A fan, always.

    -Ste

    http://www.stitchesfabricandosul.com


  • FamLay

        posted on May 29 , 2010 :

    So, when were you gonna tell us about the Complex shoot? Personally I think a better set of fits for the selection could have been on display if the fits were us to you and Travis.

    As for this post, good fits as usual and as awesome as Kenny’s fit is, (pocket square n’ tie bar made it really badass) I more of a minimalist as well a boat shoe freak so naturally yours takes the cake.

    Maybe its just me or maybe its the style you’re incorporating for the season/now on but I’ve noticed that your denim/pant selection has gotten slimmer.

    Before: the Self Edge SS-sumthinsumthin fit you posted on denim debate, which is the dopest fit to date I think.
    Now: you wear much slimmer denim, which suits you but definitely isn’t my preference when it comes to my selvage denim

    My question basically is if you have abandoned the looser fits lol.

    Cardigan post next w/more slum village in the background please! ha.

    Alrighty then….


  • Phil

        posted on May 29 , 2010 :

    Hey Guys,

    I love this post a lot, and thanks for calling it by it’s right name “the waistcoat”, which i’ve always called it.
    The waistcoat has been one of my favorite pieces to spice up any outfit and to hear a friend say it was out of fashion?!!…. I totally disagreed and thanks to you guys for doing this post.
    Josh and Kenny you guys killed the looks! I’ll be rocking a similar look this summer :-)


  • David A.

        posted on May 30 , 2010 :

    See now yet again man…this is what I mean if one of us even thinks it it is blogged. haha Scary in a way–I like this because interestingly enough I have been meaning of purchasing one of these and it has been on mind since winter. just for the fact that I have a thing for tweed and any type of herringbone “waistcoat”. They do the body right for those fall days. Even though I said fall and meant winter I still feel it is suitable for both if you know what I meant. I meant it as to touch on your point about layering, and what not. Thorough post again my good sir. I tip my hat to you…haha as cliche’ or as corny as they may sound I meant it.


  • JKISSI

        posted on June 1 , 2010 :

    @ArmonR: I can’t speak too much on the general meaning of the traditional african mask, but I know for the tribe my lineage originates from ‘Ashanti’ they used the mask during war preparation and a direct connect to their ancestors. As far as the design and craft of the faces they would stress a bulging forehead to represent wisdom , a long narrow nose to represent unwillingless to back down in war , small mouth to represent humility. It’s quite interesting there’s so much more to it.

    @TFG: You’re totally right there – you have floored with your response I really have nothing else more to add -

    @james: This post definitely can be categorized in the ‘top 3′ what ever they do consist of – I have to remember very early post where we began to take things a bit more serious than now that has led us to where we are presently. Joe Kenneth always comes with the goodness.

    @Stephen: Thank you very much!

    @FamLay: Complex press is enlisted in the blog page ‘press etiquette’ there was numerous collaborations online wise with the two. My pant proportion has always been on the more slimmer side than anything you can look through archives from last summer it seems consistent haven’t sized up/down in general. I hear you on your preference what we do is not encourage people to dress exactly like us but take what works and use it in your own sense of style. I’m 6’1 164 lbs with a slender frame I do what works for me ultimately. The effect of tailoring could also play into this – getting dimensions down to desirable measurements.


  • JKISSI

        posted on June 1 , 2010 :

    @Phil: Thanks Phil – As I said in the opening intro didn’t want to focus on the eristics of the two terms too much at all but as far as it being out of ‘fashion’ that may be but could never be out of style if worn the correct way.

    @David A.: Thanks David – not cliche at all I know you mean it with all seriousness you have responded to every post we have finished – I suggest you get into it before you know it stores will be carrying such items with fall retail season approaching.


  • TeoV

        posted on June 1 , 2010 :

    wow , I’ve always been a fan of the waistcoat , I got a a few myself in my wardrobe !!! seems like you guys always catch my liking . well done :-)


  • Tom

        posted on June 1 , 2010 :

    Very well presented! I love the new format of the posts, keep up the good work!


  • FamLay

        posted on June 2 , 2010 :

    Makes perfect sense, I’m the same height but about 180. Nevertheless I’m considering getting a better fit of my pant selection so a tailor is foreseeable in the future.
    By the way, one shouldn’t be surprised that you guys are inspiring people to change their look. I highly doubt its a matter of abandoning one’s style for another. I think that what sets this site apart from the pack is its appreciation for the history behind the more functional usage of clothes and the detail to individual garments, (while I may like duffle coats, I don’t like newsboy caps). BUT that’s ok!
    Peoples perceptions, outlooks and styles will always evolve and SE is simply a testament to that.

    Peace and success fam.


  • Eric

        posted on June 3 , 2010 :

    Very informative post.
    Really dig what you guys are doing.
    Also I really like the beaded bracelets that you wear. Where can I pick up something similar?


  • Angéline '

        posted on June 3 , 2010 :

    You are very beautiful .. !!! I like your style . .


  • Tim

        posted on June 4 , 2010 :

    Man I love this blog…

    You guys nailed it. All the different patterns are pulled together so well. Never have I seen a trendy spin put on classic mainstays with such… well, class. Well done!

    And LOVE the vintage pics.


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  • ironteacher

        posted on June 28 , 2010 :

    Great work, as usual. I’m curious–how do you roll up pants? I always have trouble: sometimes it’s rolled up too high and looks like capris and other times it’s too low and it looks strange. Sometimes the rolled up part isn’t tight enough and other times. You both seem to get it right everytime. Do you have any tips? Thanks!


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        posted on June 2 , 2011 :

    The Flat Head jeans have been receiving a ton of wear even though the temperature is rising. A perfect example of a person who does this is professor Cornell West. This royal proclamation is the first mention of a waistcoat. I am a big fan of the waistcoat. Alot of people do not know there fit when it comes to this piece of clothing. dress up or down still works all depends. Thanks to everyone for their compliments and comments. Thanks for the Cornel West link. I should try other methods but I pretty much go with this method time and time again. I have long realized the versatility and untapped potential of the waistcoat. Does anyone know some good places to get waistcoats. You can check out the full post Here very insightful. This is a great post as NYC transitions to the warmer weather. I will let her know where I got it specifically. Trav has inspired me to step my vtg polo game up. I quite enjoy checking out your blog. You do a fantastic job with it. i love the saddle shoes worn by kenneth. Soon it will become obsolete to wear clothing for their name or their price. I look ti the vests in my wardrobe to add the finishing touch. I totally disagreed and thanks to you guys for doing this post. They do the body right for those fall days. Even though I said fall and meant winter I still feel it is suitable for both if you know what I meant. Thorough post again my good sir. Joe Kenneth always comes with the goodness. I hear you on your preference what we do is not encourage people to dress exactly like us but take what works and use it in your own sense of style. All the different patterns are pulled together so well. You both seem to get it right everytime.Danke für die Info! Schaut doch mal bei Waistcoat vorbei.


  • waistcoat-user

        posted on June 2 , 2011 :

    The Flat Head jeans have been receiving a ton of wear even though the temperature is rising. A perfect example of a person who does this is professor Cornell West. This royal proclamation is the first mention of a waistcoat. I am a big fan of the waistcoat. Alot of people do not know there fit when it comes to this piece of clothing. dress up or down still works all depends. Thanks to everyone for their compliments and comments. Thanks for the Cornel West link. I should try other methods but I pretty much go with this method time and time again. I have long realized the versatility and untapped potential of the waistcoat. Does anyone know some good places to get waistcoats. You can check out the full post Here very insightful. This is a great post as NYC transitions to the warmer weather. I will let her know where I got it specifically. Trav has inspired me to step my vtg polo game up. I quite enjoy checking out your blog. You do a fantastic job with it. i love the saddle shoes worn by kenneth. Soon it will become obsolete to wear clothing for their name or their price. I look ti the vests in my wardrobe to add the finishing touch. I totally disagreed and thanks to you guys for doing this post. They do the body right for those fall days. Even though I said fall and meant winter I still feel it is suitable for both if you know what I meant. Thorough post again my good sir. Joe Kenneth always comes with the goodness. I hear you on your preference what we do is not encourage people to dress exactly like us but take what works and use it in your own sense of style. All the different patterns are pulled together so well. You both seem to get it right everytime.Danke für die Info! Guckt doch mal bei Waistcoat vorbei.


  • Waistcoats for Men

        posted on March 30 , 2013 :

    I remember that our professor at high school was especially known by wearing the waistcoats all the time. We used to call him a Waistcoat Man. :) However, as funny as it might seem, I completely understand him as good look was always a charm for the laidies and I must say that he with the exception of Barney Stinson of course has inspired me for the fashionable clothing. Always remember to suit up.


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