Street Etiquette : Style Evolution Etiquette Read  -  General Style  -  Snaps Through the Scope 71 Comments

JKISSI : Style, in my opinion can be defined as your body being a blank canvas where you have the choice to make a personal statement to the outside world. There are a number of various parts that accompany your style, such as making your outfits into a body of art by incorporating palettes and textures. There is a distinct difference between style and fashion, which I think people get confused without even knowing so. The majority of our newer readers are probably unaware that I and Travis weren’t always dressed this way. This idea originally stemmed from a previous blog post we posted up about the elements of the “WDYWT” ( What Did You Wear Today ) around individual fashion forums. The thought of myself wearing anything similar to what I wear today four years ago would’ve made me laugh at myself. The important aspect about evolution in style is that it doesn’t occur overnight, it’s more of  series of events that happen to you over time. Personally, for me it went fromI could never wear a button up shirt toOk, I like this , but I could never tuck in my shirt into my pantsand it kept continuing from there.  This kind of thought really widens your eyes to different ways of incorporating things you see into your style. It’s often in interviews and general questions people ask “Who am I inspired by? I constantly answer that ordinary people who walk the street with distinctive style inspire me.

Even though my sense of style has changed, there is still multiple stacks of sneaker boxes in my room.  I still love sneakers, but as cliche as this sounds I’m not in love with them. I recently did a post titled “Losing My ‘Sole’” which was kind of a farewell to the sneaker game, and everything involved. This post is not relaying the message that everyone needs to alter their style at one point, but it would be a good idea!

I personally feel like so many people could relate to us, and that’s why the site attracts people of all demographics from all over the world. The site has seemed to be on the same parallel as our style,  it has changed dramatically from when Travis and I first started. We tried to increase the importance of content and presentation of the site in general , and it seems to be working. Working, something we won’t stop doing definitely more to come the table.

Pictured below are images from us through 2007 – 2009

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  • Jason

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    Man , I remember going to highschool with you . Your style was very different from all of us at school , but now I can honestly say that I look up to you . you have great sense of style , originality and its up to par . peace

  • riche

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    this is a really great post. I myself could relate to this since I’m currently going threw a “style evolution” myself. I’m finding myself hunting for a original pair of Clarks the same way I would for a pair of OG jordans a year ago. I think everyone should really keep an open mind when it comes to clothing and give new things a shot before completely ruling them out.
    Feel free to follow my lead

  • Johnathan

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    Is that the J.Crew rain slicker?

  • scott

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    it is a j.crew rain slicker, and josh i remember when i say you in school wearing that second fit and still think it’s fire. i’ll stop in at work soon and say what’s up again, sorry i missed out on the party.
    always the best,

  • dayinthelyf

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    What i want to know is where do we go from here? Is there anywhere else in fashion we can go as men or do you guys see any room for evolution?

  • Aaron

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    Great post. Evolution in style, as with all things, is something I feel is inevitable. I, too, have always taken an interest in sneakers. That love will never go away; however, there are too many sources of inspiration to not be intrigued to try new things as far as style is concerned.


        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    Jason : Thanks man appreciate it especially from my H.S friends you already know what type of environment we was in , It was only until high school where I felt I needed to stray away from the crowd. Thanks for dropping by the site appreciate it.

    Riche : Yeah, I definitely been there before and know how that feels, after a while you start to “not” rule out things so quick and think a little bit longer. Someone’s style could be way out of my league or liking , but I’ll sit back and think instead of jumping to my ruling, your right on that one. Yeah OG Clarks are hard to find kind of Trav was fortunate to find that red pair smh!

    : Yes, that is the J.Crew rain slicker

    Scott : Thanks Scott for coming to the blog and dropping a comment, yeah man anytime come through to my ob we have to link up man no problem on the party, unfortunately I wasn’t able to attend myself so yeah lol

    Reggie : That question is something I think about from time to time , I think it will just come naturally I don’t have a plan mapped out of how I want to dress a couple years from now. I see where your coming from though it seems like there is no stopping sometimes !


        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    Aaron : Hey, probably one of the best things I heard thus far “There are too many sources of inspiration to not be intrigued to try new things as far as style is concerned” I agree with this 100% that is exactly how I feel. When individualds limit themselves they do not get to really flourish. Good words

  • willy cheesesteak

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    Josh, if I don’t find that slicker on ebay or popping up in the J. Crew sales section, I’m going to kidnap yours one of these days, lol. Was watching that joint for months too, then when it went on sale all the good sizes were snapped up, smh.

  • unknown

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    I went from a rock/indie look to a classic traditional look ever since I started researching about fashion and truly learning what it is. I used to always like to dress up but always followed the crowd and never knowing the rules of correctly dressing clothes. Ever since last year when that happened.. my eyes are opening up more and more with each month and wanting to try something I would have never considered earlier.

    Your blog was among the first blogs I ran into when I got curious about men’s fashion.

  • JAY

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    I love this post, simple because I too have transitioned quite the same way. I too was the cliche sneaker head searching high and low for that special pair of OG air Jordan’s. And now there stacked in a corner in my room, waiting to be sold. I now search for the prefect vintage denim Jacket, and wear nothing but Levi originals. The way you guys dress, the exquisite style displayed here, I can see many sneakers heads transitioning to something similar. Many of them won’t but I already have sneaker cats approaching me with mad questions about fit, a quality of clothes. Questions that I use to ask about sneakers. This could be a weak analysis, but I see a trend, I told one person that the way I style myself now will be the way most guys will want to look. I can truly say I am the only man who dresses the way I do in my part of the country.

  • Tiara89

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    I can definitely feel where you are coming from in terms of style evolution. I’m going through something similar here in Detroit. I find myself constantly looking around my neighborhoods seeing a pretty big contrast in what the girls around me wear, and what I wear today as opposed to 2 years ago. A lot of girls here think that you have to rock something with very large branding just so people can notice your fit. I used to be like that to, until I discovered what style really means (thanks to CoCo , Karl, and Vivianne Westwood). Maybe on one of your upcoming posts you should talk about the evolution of branding.

  • Michael K

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    This is one of my favourite posts you have written.
    A great look back and (I think) a really succinct way of summing the differences between fashion and style.
    Like you I used to be a major sneaker addict, and I came to the realisation over the years that real style has to include so much more than what you put on your feet.
    I still have a few sneaker boxes stacked up as well!

  • Kirill

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    Clarks are amazing! May be you can tell where can buy it or another original colours online?

  • Tili

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    You guys have GORGEOUS style. most guys just dont experiment.


        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    Nice Post. The thing I like about fashion is the versatility of it all. I’m 18 so I’m still an apc with sneakers guy BUT I’m also into timeless “classy” sort of pieces. Depending on the way I feel, you could catch me in either/or, maybe it’s because of my age, probably not, but I truly love the vastness of fashion. My style has evolved in the type of pieces I like, maybe with my move to NYC and the exposure that comes along with it, my style will evolve even more…great post.


        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    Willy Cheesesteak : LOL! I got it on ebay for $100 I was very lucky I was looking for a perfect rain coat and it just so happens it was there and no one was bidding on it. I really came up on a steal for that jacket because I know with J.crew quality/price it didn’t retail at $100!! lol I’m not giving it up ever ! lol

    Unknown : I like how you are coming from a different fashion spectrum a lot of people especially in NYC are coming from sneakerhead backgrounds to more formal , and clean styles if they can go through with the full transformation. Before everything I used to follow the crowd too, then realized it was better to just branch out and do my own thing , which made me stand out and get criticised but that comes with the terriotory I guess.

    JAY : Very true man , I’m glad I get to tell the story so many people feel the same about I always wanted to this post, but finally got to executing it correctly. Your right a lot of sneakerheads will try a different style, but what I see is that they go for the more higher streetwear brands mostly japanese like Visvim and others. To get to our exact style most of them wont do , but some do I do get questions also from people on the street/internet asking specific questions. I have no problem with it just sharing information , and knowledge with another person that seeks it. a lot of people are too stuck in their ways to convert over to our style I think from what I hear they think it’s some old “grandpa” style with cardigans and loafers and such. People just need to learn that inspiration can be taken from anywhere.

    Tiara89 : Yes, I was on the large brand at one time in my life also, it’s funny because as soon as you break from the usual norm , and mold people look at you different and start to judge. Your right, sometimes simplicity is the best way to go with a flash of color in my opinion. Yes, that’s a great idea the evo of branding would be a good article. Thanks for commenting ;d

    Michael K : Thanks man I think we have talked about this before on my post about ‘Losing My Sole’ I’m glad this is your favorite post because it’s one of mine also. Exactly! there is more to style than what can go on your feet and look good, there are so many other elements that come into play that people choose to ignore. We are not mad at the ‘sneakerhead’ at all , we all use to have some sort of experience with it. What we are doing is sharing our experience in the past , and how we view it today since the change up !

    Kirill : yes, you can look all over the site and see Clarks lol we need to get endorsed by Clarks! If anyone has that connect please let them know lol , you can try places like for the originals , , , just a few to name google should help you sort out everything from highest to more lower prices on the shoes.

    Tili : Thanks yeah we’re afraid so, it’s all about trying something new sometimes even though you may get judged, but hey that comes with the change and territory. I checked out your blog very nice female perspective on style/fashion browsed around count me in as a fan lol

  • sQuincy

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    another great post..
    i can’t agree more.
    these are like words out of my mouth.
    the flicks of you guys are way to similar to myself.
    style can be a tricky thing, different directions, and outcomes
    but what’s new to us, has always been around,
    my parents laugh at me, things i’ve picked up, they have been trying to tell me since i was young.
    and i’ve noticed in some of my younger years when i couldn’t dress myself.
    but with the evidence of more fashion forward men. things are really changing up
    the slowpokes will soon see. but for those of you who call it a trend.
    i disagree.. i like to think of it as new standards! or evolution
    because back in high school the internet for me and my peers wasn’t such a big media.
    i mean it was around. we used it.. but i never considered it a fashion outlet.
    and probably wouldn’t know where to look back then. now-a-days we have mobile connection.
    bringing anything closer and with you as you travel. we where only inspired by celebs..
    and what was in magazines or on TV.
    and what i feel is next.. will be more well dressed gentlemen in suits(or components of suits)..and more shoes
    matter of fact.. im still waiting to see Mr. Kissi pull this look off, we have discussed this here!?
    we haven’t forgotten!

  • CalvinBKcSF

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    This is a very necessary post and I am so glad you guys did it. Style whether in one form or another always has roots. Whether or not people allow it to blossom or even acknowledge it is their own choice, however evolution is necessary in order to grow. You have to know where you’ve been to know where you’re going. Keep up the good work fellas. People, it’s okay to change!

  • AlexP

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    Hey guys at SE i just wanted t osay that you guys consistently put up great posts and have been one of my favorite blogs since discovering it. As you mention in this article i relate in every aspect to what you guys portray and believe in when it comes to style and fashion for that matter, down to the sneeaker game and everything. ive taken many mental notes on how well you guys arrange outfits and incorporate them into my everyday wear. i live in PHX AZ which doesnt allow for layering or much of any diversity due to the sweltering heat, but ive found that the challenge to widen my clothing spectrum has become a personal accomplishment. your post on accesories had me rolling because i went out and found a variety of wrist wear based on your earlier pictures and a few days later you posted the article. good stuff. ive also taken a liking to clarks authentic shoes and boat shoes and have been saving up to purchase em!

    thanks for putting up a great site fellas! keep to it!

  • Luke

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    A few months ago I FINALLY found your site and became an instant fan. There must be something in the air…last week I decided to shift the focus of the writing and curating on my own site towards a similar concept – this idea of aesthetic transitions and how we each define our own styles as they evolve and we reinvent ourselves.

    My interest in this approach is based on my experience as a transman and the effect that both fashion and style have played in that process. (Here’s to SE’s wide demographic reach!) Reading the opening of this post, “Style, in my opinion can be defined as your body being a blank canvas where you have the choice to make a personal statement to the outside world,” I was blown away by this completely coincidental yet really insightful analysis of the trans experience. And to read it at a time when I am assessing and piecing together my own style narrative was really, really cool.

    Thanks for the consistently great, great work and for having such a fantastic eye!

  • friendinfashion

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    Great post – its always fun looking back at your own style – very cool throughout.

  • kyx

        posted on August 10 , 2009 :

    good post

    i love checking the evolutions of peoples styles.

    but you gotta go more than 2 years on that joint

  • MellNY

        posted on August 11 , 2009 :

    I liked your old style better!
    Ha, time and a place…

  • jfkjean

        posted on August 11 , 2009 :

    Firstly, that was very big of Jason to say what he said and he gets mucho respect from me b/c people aren’t big enough to admit things like that. These 2 men, Trav and Josh are two of the very few whose styles I respect and constantly find inspiration in.

    One of the guys asked where do we go from here in our style evolution? Who knows but as long as we have fun with it and continue looking polished at the same time, only time will tell. Some of us will find our style and stick with it and if it’s classic enough, it’ll looks good in 2029 as it did/does in 2009.

    Lastly, Josh great post again but maybe I’m a little greedy in wanting to know what clicked in making you wanna “up the ante”. I’ll have to pick you and Trav’s brains about that one, a man to man to man talk if you will lol. As long as you guys keep pushing the envelope, we’ll push right along wit you and break those stereotypes down somehow. Those light skinned dudes don’t stand a chance! haha

    Btw…I swear sometimes you look like you could be related to Akon lmao……

  • Duzz

        posted on August 11 , 2009 :

    woah this is a very interesting post…i think that your very lucky that you were able to catch the growth in your style over the past 3 years…i myself…cant really do so….but all i have is stacks of printed tees and canvas shoes boxes to speak for me…but i do feel a sense of nostalgia from this post…..not directly stated but from the pictures anyone who says that it doesnt take effort to get dressed is straight up lying….and so this is sort of going back and showing you the days where i n fact it might have not taken as much effort to put on your clothes than it does now….ANYWAYS….i was reading the comments @luke and found it very interesting to read his thoughts aswell as JFKjeans comments(LMAO at the akon comment)…i think the next step from here is defining wat it really means for be fashionable and stylish….and the contrast between these two things/ideas….i think i read somewhere that …fashion always changes but style is forever timeless….

  • JessieADORE

        posted on August 11 , 2009 :

    This is what you cal a consistent evolution. It has the common thread of your style at its core…but definitely reflects maturity as well.

    Kudos :)

  • Steph La Bella

        posted on August 11 , 2009 :

    Great article here Joshua , love this blog very much keep it up


  • Vincent Tsang

        posted on August 11 , 2009 :

    “Clothing is maybe the single greatest form of self-expression. Whether you’re fashion-impaired or fashion-inspired, I urge everyone to take a few extra minutes every day to contemplate the message you’re sending to the world.”

    Although a STEADY evolution is good, I still love it when someone can call a certain item or attire his own and actually stick to it. Change is good, but so is loyalty to clothing, just like how nothing can beat an old pair of worn levi’s or a dilapidated pair of authentic’s. I guess it is this nuance and antithesis which makes the human body a great canvas, and clothing such a great medium. It is this versatility that will allow evolution as well as timeless-ness to the items considered to be moguls…or originators.

    thank you for the good read josh

  • Vincent Tsang

        posted on August 11 , 2009 :

    oh yeah and why am i not in Family…THe helll smh

  • Jeff

        posted on August 11 , 2009 :

    I don’t really know what i want to say, but i told you I would comment on every post from now on! LOL. You both have great style. Keep it up with the great posts guys.

  • Ed Brown

        posted on August 12 , 2009 :


    I love your blog man, your style is very elegant yet urban. I am a 40 year old black man and I am in the process of a style makeover. Your blog has helped me to develop my own individual style that compliments my age and personality. Keep up the good work. Your blog is on my top 10 list, and I have many that I frequent.

  • Isabel

        posted on August 12 , 2009 :

    You listen to Bad Brains? That’s legit! Not only do I love Bad Brains, but I also think you are quite the snappy dresser.

  • deb

        posted on August 12 , 2009 :

    I love the site and your choice of style…but, where is the evolution? I am not sure you understand what evolution means. The clothing in the above pics look like they are all from the same season/collection.


        posted on August 12 , 2009 :

    Squincy : I always look forward to your feedback always a good and lengthy one a vibe if we were chilling kind of conversation. Your right with evidence of well dressed men you just take more pride in the way you present yourself to the world. Yeah , in Highschool because I was there about 2 years ago it did have a effect on how I dressed because I was in it for the sneakers, but I never limited myself to just sneakers and graphic t-shirts. After a while I wanted to try new things, and such. The internet is really connecting everything the companies that fail to realize this will be left in the dust. LOL I’m looking for a real dapper suit for this F/W for sure it will definitely go on the site!

    CalvinBkcSF : It’s sad that a lot people live to reject that I mean I’m not saying everyone in the world needs to do some growth in their style, but people who claim they have should see this as just improving if anything else. I love what you said saying its ok to change, I stand by that its ok for some change to happen people are just stuck in there ways. Thanks for the good words keep up the good work out in SF

    AlexP: Hey man thanks for the good words, this post was needed always wanted to do it , but guess I was waiting on timing and such. Don’t get me wrong here I’m not backlashing at anyone involved in the sneakergame I’m just trying to share my experience with everyone and it just so happens a lot of people feel the same way. Yeah I could imagine how hot it is in PHX , AZ at least you can be on your spring/summer steeze all the time. Thanks again for dropping that comment

    Luke : I guess great minds think alike ! , I like the transman approach aesthic change is very important, people always like to throw the word aesthetic around when talking about style . I like how our demographic brings different individuals , but all sharing the same conflict or story like the user that commented ‘unknown’ very cool. I’m glad we could be a good ear for you while writing your own perspective on the topic, when your finished drop us a email or something! thanks for the good words again! Nice site btw

    Friendinfashion: Thanks! yeah they’re some more old pictures I could go into but I rather not.

    kyx : Word man I would like to see yours knowing the way you dress today, yeah I mean finding those pictures are difficult!

    Melny : I could never go back to Supreme tees and jordans , it was cool for what it was though ! lol

    JFK jean : Yeah Jason is a good guy you already know how H.S can be when your kind of doing your own thing fashion wise which eventually translates into other things such as music,thought,culture and all. I agree with you on the subject of whats next? .. I really don’t even look into it that way.

    Yeah man when time permits we got to just sit and pick everyone’s brain, my reasons are pretty basic I think , I would like to know yours also because you have great style also. LOL @ comparison long lost african brother there Ghana rep! lol

    Duzz : Thanks, Yeah it’s not a accurate depiction of our style in 3 years because without a doubt I would still wear the 2nd, and 3rd outfits of mine and I’m sure Trav will of his. It was more about the first picture then to the last 2 . Yeah I think it takes some sort of thought process to get dressed, at least for me I just know what I have in my closet and depending on how I’m feeling tht day put stuff together in my mind then go try it on lol.
    Your right I heard that saying around also , a good one too.

    Jessie ADORE : Definitely reflects maturity the sneakers were cool but not my cup of tea anymore, just like throw back jerseys aren’t yours :D lol

    Steph La Bella
    : Thanks a lot , lol these comparisons are killing me! lol

    Vincent Tsang
    : I like how you flipped the whole concept on focusing on style/clothing loyalty that has some truth to it. If a person is perfectly comfortable in their more advance stages or , how ever you want to categorize it i think it’s fine to hold that kind of look down. LOL I got you on the family it will appear soon , and thanks for commenting I really like your site , great photography and presentation.

    Jeff : LOL it shows how you stand by your word at least lol

    Ed Brown : Wow, for a 40 year old black gentlemen to say that , I’m flattered to be honest I knew our demographic was wide , but not that wide. I’m glad you are finding your niche with your style , it’s always some thought process that goes into it, If I could recommend it don’t be to afraid to try some new styles just the advantage of your age you got to see a lot of things I only see in pictures , use that to your advantage!! Thanks again

    Isabel : Yeah I do listen to them thanks to my brothers Ryan and Stevee who comments on here from time to time, some good stuff!

    Deb : The evolution really starts in the first picture if graphic tees , gold chain , and sneakers looks like it can be in the same collection in comparison to the other pictures then of course there is no evolution. But there is a difference in looks, I would see it as the first pictures on both of us, and you could just take a look around the site and see if our style has changed. I wanted to put up pictures of way before the internet phase , but I failed to find some good presentable ones. I know the people who have been following the site for a while got the point mainly, maybe the years threw people off because i would still wear both of those looks up there , maybe not the sneakers and graphic tee one. Trav first picture looks similar but he still has on sneakers with a cardigan , the details from each outfit changes a bit too ! The only thing I would say didn’t change was my proportions on my outfits. Thanks for reading the site and commenting hopefully I explained this a little better here good question though.


        posted on August 12 , 2009 :

    Kingpin_k : Oh almost missed your comment! lol , You”re still kind of young , plus your moving from a place like Texas to NYC it’s going to have a big effect on you , at least I think so. You will start to see things a lot differently especially with fashion/style, and when you go back to Texas people are going to be like lol what?.. lol

    BTW guys sorry for the comment delay response I typed out everything and Firefox decided to crash on me, so I had to retype everything again ! lol my apologies

  • Orlando

        posted on August 12 , 2009 :

    dude you look dope in everyone of those fits, which is pretty impressive. i especially liked the yellow coat and the duckboots – you rock the hell out of that coat!
    and those brick red chukkas/desert boots – where are they from?

  • Coldsun

        posted on August 13 , 2009 :

    I feel like we all go through this… The stage of advancing your taste… I feel kinda bad for people that dont… I dont wanna say my style took huge leaps (though it has improved too), cause even back in high school i had style, and people would say i was well dressed… But my taste, oh yeah, my tasted evolved… Man simply getting things a size smaller did wonders… lol… I remember going to college hoping i could make it through without wearing a tie… Now i have like over $2000 worth of ties… I currently feel like i am the best dressed i have ever been in my life… But i know it will get even better…

  • mr.bonds

        posted on August 13 , 2009 :

    Great site, one of the best i have seen in a while.
    I think style evolution is a part of personal growth and current environment and mind state. I think being versatile and confident also leads to style evolution. I read somewhere that people shouldnt buy any item of clothing if you dont see your wearing it in 5 or 10 years. It alone is the beginning of style evolution.

  • Jon B

        posted on August 13 , 2009 :

    the post keep getting better and better!

  • dreamsequins

        posted on August 13 , 2009 :

    It’s nice to see a menswear focused site that isn’t solely devoted to one niche. You seem to mix up your looks and people can relate to it because it’s all very wearable, but the right mix of fashionable and classic.

  • Kadeem J.

        posted on August 13 , 2009 :

    Mr.Kissi and Trav what’s good
    I’m sooo amazed by you guys yo. Feels good to have brothas my age to look up to. Keep doing it up. Like I said before you guys are going places and I will be watching.


        posted on August 13 , 2009 :

    Orlando : Thanks man kind of kept the same proportion through out , I love that J.crew rain slicker like no other got it for a steal also, which makes it feel better! Those boots that trav is wearing are clarks desert boots they’re rare though, made a long time ago.

    Coldsun : True man, at one point you feel like this is it , this is the apex of my dressing days. Then your taste starts to grow even more to things you haven’t even messed with yet. Now it’s like my taste for fashion/style has affected my all around thought as a human bein learning new things. Wow, $2000.00 worth of ties is a lot I only have about 20 ish or around there I need to step up my game lol

    Mr.Bonds : Thank my brother good words keep us going ! , you hit it right on the head it does intertwine with mind state I witnessed this first hand with my own experience. Once, you start being open to different taste/style of dressing you want to also just learn more about your new found taste. It’s like learning about a new music genre you go back and try to learn the history and everything involved in it.

    DreamSequins : Thank you :D always showing us some support

    Kadeem J : Man, it’s a mutual thing because I look up to you too, especially us being from the same borough we got to do it right only. You have become a real notable on here after the accessories post lol! We’ll keep in touch got to work on some project together !

  • Selected Few

        posted on August 14 , 2009 :

    This appeals to me so much right now considering the fact that I have been streetwear fo a while now and shit is still my love. But I have just recently been familiarizing myself with menswear it started at the originals or the classics like: Louis Vuitton, Burberry, Gucci, Ralph Lauren, Banana Republic and then it went to the lower, less known and young designers. I have just recently come across you to gentlemen that are really close to my age because I think I read in a interview of you to that you were like 19 0r 20 some shit like that and I was like you two dress far beyond your years. And, from that I have slowly started realizing that am a admire of people’s own personal style, through watching creative people like you two or your boy Phil even people like Dee & Ricky…I have just realize that all of you take risks with your fashion. I even see the poorly dressed individuals that walk among us and I see bits of style in their wardrobes, though with that said it brings me to a quote that Kanye said which was, “It is crazy how people with the worst style can make major fashion statements…”(Don’t hold me to the word for word qoute…haha). Keep style alive! Peace.

  • Danny Wong

        posted on August 14 , 2009 :

    JKISSI, I definitely can relate to what you are talking about.
    Back in the day, baggy jeans and shirts were all the rave. Nike AF1s were all kids wore, and guys with messenger bags and fitted jeans were outcasts.
    There really is a big change in our personal styles as we grow up. For the most part, it is for the better. I definitely love the look in the 6th picture. Big fan of the tie!
    I think a big part about personal evolution of dress has to do with our desire to become more individual. The Generation Y behavior leans more towards individuality over being a “follower.” Everyone wants their own style. People are tired of buying a shirt and wearing it the next day only to see some stranger wearing the SAME EXACT THING.
    I really enjoyed what you had to say. Keep the voice coming!


        posted on August 14 , 2009 :

    Selected Few : Thanks my brother , your right about taking risk with incorporating certain things that you liked into your style, not everyone may find it “stylish” as you do , but I think it’s all a personal mind state where you feel good about yourself. Not to say everyone can do whatever they want and deem it the best thing that ever happened in fashion, but its more of a personal mind state. The people you name dropped like D&R, and Phil of Award Tour all have their different take on style, and thats what I like. Be different , be you something I really stand by. The Kanye statement is a bit true , I’m not holding you word for word dont worry! ahahah

    Danny Wong
    : Yes I know what you’re talking about I was in the whole baggy jeans / uptowns ( air force ones ) and very long tees. Yes, especially then any jeans remotely fitted not even mentioning slim, or skinny were immeadiately outcasted by most especially in my area! It still happens today with the homophobic comments I hear revolving around the whole skinny/fitted look it’s pretty ignorant sometime. That’ true a desire to become your own individual is the way I felt when I made the choice to even dress a little different from the rest in H.S as Jason stated up there. Thanks and great site!

  • Shame Hate Dawg

        posted on August 14 , 2009 :

    I think I need to start looking a doucebag. Having style in some places make people think you’re gay.

    My style or rather style in general comes not through designers and labels, it comes from the way you put an outfit together. You can still have an entire outfit from Selfedge, and still look bad. WAYWT for me lets me see what might look good for me, give me ideas or give me a good laugh.

    I still believe in colors.


        posted on August 15 , 2009 :

    Shame Hate Dawg : Yes this is true, especially where a lot of people are not used to fashionabe men you receive the most weird looks and such. People just assume anything with good style as homosexual , or rather tight fitting clothes just for their data gay people wear loose clothing too , its more humorous than anything to me. I’m used to long train rides into the city where at the start you are stared at a lot but by the time you arrive in manhattanyoukind of blend in with everyone else, its funnylol

    Thats true just like any brand you could be decked out in for example Rick Owens and still look bad in my opinion. It’s more of how does the person make it their own kind of. I’m a very fond believer in colors, all black is cool once a while, but I love to play around with color palettes way too much to give in to black everyday.

  • Duha

        posted on August 15 , 2009 :

    “Style, in my opinion can be defined as your body being a blank canvas where you have the choice to make a personal statement to the outside world.” I love that! I always get inspired when visiting sites like this to always switch my style up and always make an outfit convey my persona. I think it is always important to show abit of personality when assembling an outfit together, i always try to set a trend when i can :P . Style always alters and ‘evolves’ and that only causes you to compose a stronger sense of stylisation. Like i know if i look back at what i wore last year i would be in shock and think to myself ‘what was i thinking?!’. Thanks for another great post fellas.


        posted on August 15 , 2009 :

    Duha : Wow , I feel good that everyone can relate to that statement , all of our own pieces of stories making up a whole picture here. Yes, last year my style wasn’t drastically different, but some alterations I would make to it obviously lol. Thanks appreciate glad the site can bring that feeling to you

  • sam

        posted on August 15 , 2009 :

    i appreciate everything you guys are doing and attempting but it just doesnt seem natural some times it;s kinda like you guys OD or force certain looks. i can relate to style evolution but not posing for a certain “look” rather than the style being actually a life style.


        posted on August 15 , 2009 :

    Sam : To be honest I don’t see anything contrived at all, I think people only cateogorize something as “Trying hard” is when they’re not used to it personally, like something can be contrived only when judged from another persons eyes while in the person who is wearing the clothes it can be their natural everyday look. I never pull that card on anyone from the most simple looks to the more busy ones. I just learned that people do things at different mediums. I don’t know maybe its because we’re from NYC and its we’re just used to it not saying NYC is the only fashionable place,but I hear other people say online that they could never wear what we wear , or anything similar because they wouldn’t feel comfortable. To me it all just comes down to the individual personally. Like we have dudes with more risky stlye for example like Taz , cheetah print leggings boots, and neon color biker jackets ( just trying to reference one of his outfits here lol ) , and I wouldn’t even classify that as trying hard, I see it as his style. Thanks for dropping that comment and we also appreciate it.

  • kyx

        posted on August 15 , 2009 :


    I guess you gotta look through the depths of sufu WAYWT

    all the pics are there for 5 years… I could probably find some NikeTalk stuff if I looked hard enough…

  • kyx

        posted on August 15 , 2009 :

    there was a much better evolution of peoples style thread that got started after this. Some ridiculous pics in that one. Ill try to see if I can find it. Has a ton of Sufu style evolutions of a bunch of prolific members.

  • Danny Wong

        posted on August 16 , 2009 :

    reading a few of these comments encouraged me to say this – the other day I bought a pair of colored denim (yellow), and I own a pair of maroon colored jeans that i absolutely love to rock. the maroon pants are similar to the pants in pic2 although those are obviously red! but my point is that when i wear them, i get funny looks, sometimes compliments, and an occasional ignorant comment.
    style is what you make of it. just b.c ppl don’t understand it doesn’t mean they should hate on it. admittedly though, i believe there are some real no-no’s in style, but that can be saved for another conversation.

    RE: Sam and JKISSI’s convo
    I am between both sides of the argument. there are some ppl I believe that try really hard to pull off looks that they themselves do not understand but rock just b.c others around them and their peers wear clothes that way.
    But for those that have an idea of what they are doing with their own style – there is nothing that is forced. it is natural. sometimes those same ppl ‘try’ new looks and may be unsuccessful at wearing those clothes well and that may come off as ‘unnatural,’ in which case it is! b.c. they are giving something new a shot that they themselves may not be all comfortable with, so they do not wear it as naturally as they do their ‘everyday’ outfits.

  • Roaming Class

        posted on August 16 , 2009 :

    On the whole “trying hard” thing I don’t think we jkissi was referencing to those sneakerheads that are obviously hypebeast because they do “try hard”, but the people who have been in the game know the truth. I have to disagree witI like what they do and I see it’s legit and If I would of met them in person bet they would be cool as hell.

    keep up the good work fellas most of us see it’s real.

  • Alex

        posted on August 16 , 2009 :

    The word you’re looking for is “TREND”. You’re into a trend now, you were into a trend before. It’s incredibly simple. I know it’s hard to really admit it but you are being led to where you are now, you didn’t just WAKE UP one day and say “I like brogues and Oxford shirts!?”. It’s been the way things have been going since advertising came into play. I enjoy the trends as well, it’s just the way we choose to skew it.


        posted on August 17 , 2009 :

    kyx : Great addition that thread is full of them I remember looking threw it for a long time. I recommend you guys to check out kyx’s link. Yeah I have some olddd niketalk stuff also.

    Danny Wong : I know what you mean as soon as you go out of the normal black/indigo/light faded indigo pants it becomes something people really notice. I like to get different shades of color pants it opens up more options as far as what you can do, and how. Yeah, people do try hard to pull off stuff while it’s pretty apparent and at the same time you could sometimes see that.

    Roaming Class : Yeah I was kind of , “hypebeast” are known for doing so imo

    Alex : It’s not that simple, I don’t see it as a trend. I see it as a permanent staple in my outfit, a trend comes and goes while me wearing a oxford shirt tucked in/out is something I will always do from there on. It’s a apart of the permanent growth in my opinion, If it was classified as a “trend” I would not be wearing for example oxfords lets say two years from now. Brogues are not a trend in my mind it’s just something I wasn’t exposed to before. Trends are a whole different area in my opinion, some things can be classified as staples that never left to begin with, and trends have their individual times to shine. Thanks for dropping the comment! , I like to hear people’s point of view.

  • Neef

        posted on August 17 , 2009 :

    great post Josh, yea i know how it is to be seen differently when walking about just trying to be yourself. I’m from Paterson, NJ…. Its right across the water from the BX, i’m always over ther by fordham rd but anyway, people have a hard time expecting new things and walk into change. I’ve even had girls question my sexual orientation because of the way that i dress, but i’ve learned to be happy in my own skin… but before you know it our haters will be dressing just as us lol. I can’t lie, i do feel way more comfortable in NY walking around expressing my style because of the fashionable environment that i’m in, but my style has evolved rapidly thanks to you guys or SE and the great ppl of LOOKBOOK. its about time we have young black brothers that stand out in the bunch among fashion styles. it makes me proud for what i like and who i am!

    And to the man above me, i don’t believe its a trend if your ahead of the it, we and what you call the “trendsetters”. ppl take insipration from things old and new and make creations of extraordinary style. but that’s only my opinion… Good Job Josh, this was a much need post :)

  • mr.bonds

        posted on August 17 , 2009 :

    The term” trying hard” would apply to people who let other people influence their dress code 100% because they are not comfortable with there own decisions to dress themselves. That’s 90% of the population. The other 10% are the so called weirdos and people looking at individual pieces of clothing regardless of brand name,trends etc. If clothing reflects an indidvidual than on a lay back day why not wear some jeans and air forces and some days dress up with a blazer and some slacks. I personally think a diversify closet is the key.

  • Joseph A

        posted on August 17 , 2009 :

    good read, personally i still think im in that “i could never tuck in my shirt” phase

    lets try to get some more updates to help me out huh? lol

  • Alex

        posted on August 18 , 2009 :

    Don’t get me wrong, I have a similar appreciation for these staples. But it’s questionable as to wether or not you’ll be wearing the same staples in 10 years from now. Right now traditional mens clothing and workwear are a trend but they are also a staple ! What’s your answer to that ?! Every guy in NYC is wearing Boat shoes, rolled up pants and an Oxford/chambray shirt. There is a reason why you’re seeing J Crew and stores that catter to the mass capitalise on these “directions”. It’s because Americana is the “trend”. SO they happen to get lucky.

    But it’s a bit “grey area” right now because the trend happens to be over 70 years old! Or from the Ivy league 60′s, depends who you ask. Therefore, will we see guys dressing so dapper in 3-5 years from now. Not guys in their late 30′s but those in college and early 20′s or the disposable income segment.

    Or, maybe you’re a trend-setter ? after all, that’s were it always starts


        posted on August 18 , 2009 :

    Neef : I agree man , I have learned to say it all just comes with the territory when sticking out from the norm. I could imagine how Paterson, New Jersey is because I have family in NJ and go there often it’s quite different from NYC obviously , but even NYC’s outer boroughs have the same point of view. Yeah I guess people would be more comfortable walking around Manhatttan, and certain parts of Brooklyn . That’s all it is though to be happy in your own skin good words right there.

    Mr.bonds : Yes diversity is the key to this to an extent of course. I don’t think everyone wears air force ones , andjeans on a casual day. I can only vouch for myself but I’d wear some canvas shoes, blue jeans and most likely a tshirt . I don’t believe you have to be dressed up 100% of the time , sometimes to the person it’s not even considered dressing up its how they been dressing for a long time. I bet their casual outfits still revolve around that same realm of things though.

    Joseph A : Yeah I was like that before but got past it I think you will do the ame. Yeah update coming soon we’re more about interacting with our readers then doing 10 updates a day, but even then we have been a bit slow on the update one coming today though.

    Alex : Yeah it is a bit quetionable, but doesn’t personal tate rely on ones opinion ? I’m stating personally I won’t stop wearing specific items. I agree with you workwear/the whole americana thing is a trend right now, but companies like J.crew has been consistent with their current aestethic , but your right they do recognize it somewhat doing collaborations with brands which would provide to everyone who likes the workwear/menswear thing. I see that as Classic American clothing though I don’t know if I could label it as a “Trend” because they were still people who dressed like this prior to the whole explosion of things. I don’t want to go out on a limb here and call myself a trend setter, but I think I have done some things which I have put my own spin on it, or made it my own kind of. You bring up a good argument, and I like that.

  • The Ca$h

        posted on August 24 , 2009 :

    Style is priceless
    you can be original or a clone
    but, kiss in your case, i’ll let you decide…lol

  • Eva Ana

        posted on August 27 , 2009 :

    With that yellow coat on i’d adopt and marry you.

  • sneakerdude

        posted on September 9 , 2009 :

    i’m digging all of the looks..

    i got a link to this post at

    y’all should consider consigning your clothes there (ones you don’t wear anymore obviously) you would make a killing!

  • Miles

        posted on October 4 , 2009 :

    I have to agree somewhat with the fact that it’s too early for you to say that this is just a natural style evolution. Seeing the number of responses to this post of people following the same path of going towards a more “sartorial” or “timeless” style, and doing the same myself, it would seem that we could qualify it as a trend. Not the kind of trend that advertisers try to shove down our throats, tasteless clothes and futuristic uniforms, but more of a subtle change of orientation by a noticeable minority, probably turning away from a past of heavy branding and trying to set ourselves apart again.
    My only concern is that once a large number of people have adopted this style, it will seem old and boring and we will on move to something new again. How many times have i thought i found something that would stay with me forever for it to just fade away a few years later.
    Basically we will have to wait and see before we can say that all these clothes and yes, this trend, will really stay as classics for us.

  • Ka$ual

        posted on April 10 , 2010 :

    U guys really inspire me. I mean just within a span of a year my style and fashion has evolved greatly. I mean i used to think it was all about Polo’s and At my school me and my good friend are probably the two most stylish and fashionable people at my high school also with a few people from last year, some more of my good friends.
    One day i decided to go with the grey dress shirt khaki pants,red shoes, and red bowtie look; u know the FONZWORTH BENTLEY Im not trying to steal the man’s style or trying to look like him,as some people said to me; I just call it incorporating someone else’s style and/or fashion into my own(IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN) Some people were looking at me funny as tho they have never saw a well dressed person Bt then some people told me that a pulled my clothing selection off very very well. I mean just getting that compliment just inspired me even more! I have to agree with you on that most people cant differenciate from style and fashion.
    I see fashion as what type of clothes you choose, what type of material. U know stuff like that. And i see style as a way of as JKISSI said; style being like a black canvas. Style to me is also the way you incorporate that FASHION into your life, the way you wear that fashion and how confident you feel wearing that type of fashion.
    You know what i mean???

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  • KooiKid

        posted on August 15 , 2010 :

    It’s funny how right you are about growth and perspectives changing over time. I remember coming across this site the beginning of this year and thinking…bah thats not for me. Fast forward to now, and this is one of my favorite sites about fashion/style. Of course, things have changed a lot since then, but moreover, i can truly relate to this post. I’m only 19, but a lot of my friends are still “sneakerheads”. Nevertheless i get some heat about my style, but it’s good to know that I’m heading in the right direction.
    Keep up the good work guys! I’m hooked now.

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